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Cornel West Interview with Kam Williams

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One of America's most provocative public intellectuals, Dr. Cornel Ronald West has been a champion for racial justice since childhood. His writing, speaking, and teaching weave together the traditions of the black Baptist Church, progressive politics, and jazz.

 

Though currently the Class of 1943 Professor at Princeton University, Dr. West first burst onto the national scene in 1993 upon the publication of his best seller, Race Matters, a searing analysis of racism in American democracy. In his long-awaited autobiography, BROTHER WEST: Living and Loving Out Loud, he now offers a compelling exploration of his heart behind the human mind.

Here, he answers questions from readers and talks about the book which explores such themes as Faith, Family, Philosophy, Love and Service.

Kam Williams: Hi, Dr. West, nice speaking with you again. I loved your autobiography. But do you know how hard it was for me to track you down for another interview?

Cornell West: I appreciate your deep loyalty and commitment.

KW: Why did you decide to write your memoirs?

CW: Tavis Smiley, my dear brother, raised the question of my writing one when the prostate cancer hit 8 years ago. I thought and thought about it and decided maybe I could tell my story to help somebody, so they could see how the power of love and education in my life had transformed me from a gangster with raw rage.

KW: Where did that thug you refer to in the book as "Little Ronnie" come from, and how did you get past that phase?

CW: I was just mad, a born rebel. I had loving parents, a loving church and loving friends, yet I was mad, and I needed constructive venues to express that rage. I was able to find them owing to the power of love and education. So, it became a righteous indignation against injustice. It became a holy anger against unfairness. And I've had it ever since.

KW: Reverend Florine Thompson asks, where should we look to reclaim the prophetic voice regarding the war in Afghanistan? Should the Obama administration send thousands of more troops there?

CW: No, no! Obama can't get the Nobel Peace Prize and be a war President. He's got to be able to promote peace in an international, multilateral way. We don't need an American occupation; we don't need more American troops there. If he does send more, then we've got to take to the streets.

KW: Reverend Thompson also asks, with the rise in black-on-black teen crime, what should the religious community be doing differently to address this issue? Is "The Church" merely irrelevant in the lives of our youth? Many have said that our youth have little or no regard for God, church or religion since prayer was taken out of public schools.

CW: No, I don't think taking prayer out of schools was the cause of young people being suspicious of religion. That goes back a long way. It has more to do with the fact that older folk did not exemplify the kind of love and justice that the young people would like to see.

Therefore, they saw old people as hypocrites more tied to Church-ianity than Christianity. So, a lot of it has to do with the failings of the older generation which led to the younger generation's going off to look for alternatives. Unfortunately, a lot of times they turned to ugly things like guns and drugs, given the easy access to guns because of lax gun control laws, and to drugs because the government can't keep them out of the country. In addition, the youth don't have too many alternatives to the decrepit housing and disgraceful school systems which provide very little opportunities for those in the urban 'hoods. So, I think the whole issue of young people and churches has much more to do with social forces than it does with just not having prayer in schools. 

KW: How do we save our young men, then? Where are the black male role models?

CW: There's only one way to save young black people, and that's to love 'em, love 'em, love 'em, care for 'em, attend to them, embrace them, target them, concentrate on them, and make them feel as if they're somebody, because that's the only way they get self-respect and self-confidence, which are the two prerequisites for flowering and flourishing in life.

KW: The good Reverend has a question about healthcare: What should the church be doing to foster healthcare reform?

CW: Hmm... A lot of churches need to bear witness for the least of our brethren... for the weak, for the poor, for the orphaned, for the widowed, for the children. And the only way you get set on fire is you gotta be Born Again. You have to undergo fundamental awakening and conversion and metamorphosis.

KW: Reverend Thompson asks about the outcry of "You lie!" to President Obama by a Republican Congressman Joe Wilson. Was it a slip of the lip or confirmation that race matters?

CW: Well, it certainly was an act of disrespect. The very act of disrespecting the President of the United States in that manner on national television is a very serious matter.

KW: How would you say President Obama is doing on a scale of 1 to 10?

CW: It depends on which issue you're talking about. On ecology and the environment, I would give him a 7. On war, I'd give him a 3. On the economy, a 2. In terms of his trying to sustain a new atmosphere and new ethos in the country and around the world, I'd give him an 8. So, it goes up and down, relative to each issue.

KW: Children's book author Irene Smalls says, you recently launched a spoken word or rap career. How does that jibe with your academic pursuits?

CW: Oh, it's quite consistent, because I'm an educator. When I write books, that's textual education. When I do spoken word, that's singing education. When I dance, it's dancing education. All of it has to do with trying to awaken people to become more courageous to bear witness to love and justice in the world.

KW: Our mutual friend, Ila Forster, who was at Princeton when you were there as a grad student, asks if you like how jazz pianist Robert Glasper recast one of your musical pieces in an inaugural tribute. It included parts of speeches not only by you but also by Obama and Dr. King.

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